I took my trusted ES 175 to the store so I could compare the sounds of the thinlines to my 175. Of course that comparison is not really fair but still ... I thought it would be interesting to see how the full hollow thinline ES 330 would sound compared with a full sized ES guitar . I had also taken my Mambo amp through which I played them all.
After playing the 1958 VOS, the regular 2015, a reissue 1963 ES 335 TDC and a reissue 1959 335 TD, I had to conclude there was not that much difference to be noted sound wise. They all sounded like a 335 does. I think I liked the 1963 TDC somewhat better but, like I said, the major differences were cosmetic only. Apparently there is a market for VOS made Gibson guitars but personally I would not pay the premium prices these instruments demand. Heck, they ARE expensive at 4-5k euro.
And then I got to the 1959 ES 330 reissue. I was pleasantly surprised. It was a lightweight guitar with a more traditional jazz sound than what I heard from the ES 335s. With way more acoustic volume, because, obviously, the 330 has no full center block like the 335. The full hollow body has mahogany sides, a mahogany tailblock and headblock (so not full) and a 3-ply maple/poplar/maple top and back. A notable difference with the 335 is that the neck of the 330 sits further into the body, joining at the 16th fret. This creates a shorter guitar with a different feel. The 335 has better playability in the higher positions therefore. The neck of the 330 was a bit too clubby for my taste but I guess I could get used to that. The sound I found pleasing enough. A nice traditional jazz sound. I could not find a decent demo for the guitar (nobody plays jazz on jazz guitars in demos ever ... sigh) but here you can see and hear it:
I have to admit, none of the thinlines, including the 330, produced such a woody and classic jazz sound as my 175 but you can hardly expect that from a thinline of course. Still, the 330 is closer to what I want to hear in a jazz guitar than the 335. That does not mean the 335 does not work for jazz, many great players prove otherwise of course. But I would rather use the 330 for that with its hollow body.
Now for the bottom line .... I think the ES 330 will make a great guitar for straight ahead jazz. No doubt about it. It does not really sound like you hear on Grant Green recordings of course (Grant used very unusual EQ settings on his amp) but it is easy to get some cool bebop sounds from the ES 330. Definitely one of the cooler thinlines in the Gibson stable and it does have that cool vintage look with the slightly dulled finish, the P90s and the vintage Mickey Mouse horns.
Thank you for taking the time to do a demo. It is as annoying and disappointing as it is true that "nobody plays jazz on jazz guitars in demos ever". Because of your demos I bought a 1978 Es350t and have never been happier with a guitar. Thank you again!
Did ithe 330 feedback easily? One of the big complaints about the original version was a very low feedback threshold.ReplyDelete
Adam Rogers (one of the finest) mainly uses a 1999 ES 335.ReplyDelete